WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



BRANDED 1:16 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
Kaiser Zoso 12:52 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
*ordnance

Them too son

marlonsrightsock 1:12 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
Eerie are you sat in your bedsit with a pair of pants on your head and a pencil stuck up each nostril?

Eerie Descent 1:03 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
Yeah, I don't think it was him having a stab at whether it will rain on Christmas Day in 7 years time, Zeb, he has called this war in detail 100% spot on.

zico 12:57 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
The sad thing for me is if we all realised that we are human beings, the same, and pooled technology, resources and minds together and stopped fighting each other then the world could probably solve half it's problems over night.

zebthecat 12:55 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
Eerie Descent 12:41 Tue Mar 8

Stopped clock

Kaiser Zoso 12:52 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
*ordnance

BRANDED 12:51 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
I'm 60. In my lifetime somethings have changed a lot some not. I was born into the Cold War with total nuclear destruction a thing until I was in my late twenties. Most things that effect me have generally got better and better until the Covid nonsense. Thankfully that's looking like most of the restrictions will probably be removed in most places.

This War might just be another little War or escalate. Its hardly dropping the kind of ordinance the Yanks have dropped in numerous conflicts ( yet). Or agent orange etc.

Regarding climate change I see it as mostly a need to find new ways to create economic growth as the old ways are fading. Of course it also fits the new green economy religion as well.

Mostly I see rich old people clinging on to old ways.

Eerie Descent 12:41 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
The conspiracy nutter, David Icke, did an interview 7 years ago, and he called every single part of this War 100% spot on. The only thing about it that might upset some people is the reason he said it will happen.

Side of Ham 10:46 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
Treat it all like you do with West Ham Sydney, there’s fuck all you can do….. or do you like living with the misery?

overbyyer 10:29 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
24 hour news needs to stop, because 24 hour news cannot possibly occur.

Regurgitated, opinionated information is what we've ended up with - cameras panning to dogs with sad faces is not news.

Its emotional blackmail.

Mike Oxsaw 9:54 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
When we watched the Twin Towers fall live on TV, as I'm sure all/many of us did, what could you have done with that information that you couldn't have done if you had to wait to hear all about it on the six o'clock news?

What material difference did seeing it "live" make to YOUR life (and, yes, this IS all about YOU).

WHU(Exeter) 9:41 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
The road ahead was lost when people started banging on about nut allergies and Ant & Dec first appeared on tv.

Nagel 8:55 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
You've bundled together a bunch of completely unrelated topics and stuck them all under the banner of a conspiracy theory that itself has been going on for donkeys years.

A lot of people these days seem to be of this opinion that the world is getting worse by the minute. I guarantee you that every one of them spends too much of their time ingesting "news" items on social media, talk radio, etc. You were probably a lot happier back in the days when you simply read the paper while having your morning crap and maybe caught the evening news after work.

Mike Oxsaw 8:12 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
Son of Sam 4:57 Tue Mar 8

You're talking about the dissemination of information across both space & time (or propaganda if the message doesn't suit your agenda/belief system).

A better baseline would be the invention of the printing press, or, if you really want the original break-out point, cave paintings.

PwoperNaughtyButNot 6:18 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
We are seeing the final death rolls of aging business and old leaders looking to obtain as much wealth as possible before their die:


Welcome To 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy And Life Has Never Been Better

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By Ida Auken


Welcome to the year 2030. Welcome to my city – or should I say, “our city.” I don’t own anything. I don’t own a car. I don’t own a house. I don’t own any appliances or any clothes.

It might seem odd to you, but it makes perfect sense for us in this city. Everything you considered a product, has now become a service. We have access to transportation, accommodation, food and all the things we need in our daily lives. One by one all these things became free, so it ended up not making sense for us to own much.


First communication became digitized and free to everyone. Then, when clean energy became free, things started to move quickly. Transportation dropped dramatically in price. It made no sense for us to own cars anymore, because we could call a driverless vehicle or a flying car for longer journeys within minutes. We started transporting ourselves in a much more organized and coordinated way when public transport became easier, quicker and more convenient than the car. Now I can hardly believe that we accepted congestion and traffic jams, not to mention the air pollution from combustion engines. What were we thinking?

Sometimes I use my bike when I go to see some of my friends. I enjoy the exercise and the ride. It kind of gets the soul to come along on the journey. Funny how some things seem never seem to lose their excitement: walking, biking, cooking, drawing and growing plants. It makes perfect sense and reminds us of how our culture emerged out of a close relationship with nature.

In our city we don’t pay any rent, because someone else is using our free space whenever we do not need it. My living room is used for business meetings when I am not there.

Once in a while, I will choose to cook for myself. It is easy – the necessary kitchen equipment is delivered at my door within minutes. Since transport became free, we stopped having all those things stuffed into our home. Why keep a pasta-maker and a crepe cooker crammed into our cupboards? We can just order them when we need them.

This also made the breakthrough of the circular economy easier. When products are turned into services, no one has an interest in things with a short life span. Everything is designed for durability, repairability and recyclability. The materials are flowing more quickly in our economy and can be transformed to new products pretty easily. Environmental problems seem far away, since we only use clean energy and clean production methods. The air is clean, the water is clean and nobody would dare to touch the protected areas of nature because they constitute such value to our well-being. In the cities we have plenty of green space and plants and trees all over. I still do not understand why in the past we filled all free spots in the city with concrete.

Shopping? I can’t really remember what that is. For most of us, it has been turned into choosing things to use. Sometimes I find this fun, and sometimes I just want the algorithm to do it for me. It knows my taste better than I do by now.

When AI and robots took over so much of our work, we suddenly had time to eat well, sleep well and spend time with other people. The concept of rush hour makes no sense anymore, since the work that we do can be done at any time. I don’t really know if I would call it work anymore. It is more like thinking-time, creation-time and development-time.

For a while, everything was turned into entertainment and people did not want to bother themselves with difficult issues. It was only at the last minute that we found out how to use all these new technologies for better purposes than just killing time.

My biggest concern is all the people who do not live in our city. Those we lost on the way. Those who decided that it became too much, all this technology. Those who felt obsolete and useless when robots and AI took over big parts of our jobs. Those who got upset with the political system and turned against it. They live different kind of lives outside of the city. Some have formed little self-supplying communities. Others just stayed in the empty and abandoned houses in small 19th century villages.

Once in a while I get annoyed about the fact that I have no real privacy. Nowhere I can go and not be registered. I know that, somewhere, everything I do, think and dream of is recorded. I just hope that nobody will use it against me.

All in all, it is a good life. Much better than the path we were on, where it became so clear that we could not continue with the same model of growth. We had all these terrible things happening: lifestyle diseases, climate change, the refugee crisis, environmental degradation, completely congested cities, water pollution, air pollution, social unrest and unemployment. We lost way too many people before we realized that we could do things differently.



Or it’s all a conspiracy

PwoperNaughtyButNot 6:09 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
“In the future you will own nothing and be happy” WEF & UN agenda 2030

Or it’s all coincidental

Son of Sam 4:57 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
All true O.P. we have been on a downward spiral since the invention of the mobile phone and the internet.

Mike Oxsaw 4:36 Tue Mar 8
Re: New World Order, are we on a downward spiral?
Everybody (EVERYBODY) needs an evil bogeyman against whom they can measure their moral superiority: doesn't matter how it's labelled (the Sta-Puff man works well enough).





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